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Monday, 01 September, 2008

Shotgun Wedding For Bristol
(with comments)

Now we can forget the rumors about Bristol Palin being the mother of Sarah Palin's 4-month old kid. This one's not a rumor: Gov. Palin Says Her Unmarried 17-Year-Old Daughter Is Pregnant.

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us," reads the statement from Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her husband Todd.

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned," they continued, referring to their 17-year-old daughter. "As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support."

The Palins said that "Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media, respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."

And, of course:

Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex education to teenagers.


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  1. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:41am:
    How do you say "keep your legs together" in text speak?
  2. By LPS. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:44am:
    KeeP ur legz 2getha ?
  3. By Chris Weagel. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:52am:
    She's sending her pregnant daughter to Iraq to fight Downs Syndrome?
  4. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:53am:
    Do you think McCain might be reconsidering his running mate? Pawlenty might be looking pretty good at this point and the campaign already got what it mainly wanted out of the Palin surprise: capturing the 48 hour news cycle after the Democratic conveention.
  5. By Max. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:53am:
    What brilliant advice to give your teenage daughter. The way to fix a giant mistake is to make yet another one. I'm sure marrying her teenage lover will make life so much easier for her. And just think, a few years from now they'll have so much in common.
  6. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:54am:
    See what I mean about completely tiny font size in Firefox?
  7. By Ice Giant 37. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:57am:
    We ask the media, respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."

    Here's what John McCain said about Chelsea Clinton in 1998:

    "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
    Because her father is Janet Reno.
    "

    I guess Palin may have a point, since her appeal was directed at the media; the Washington Post, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times all refused to print McCain's joke.
  8. By Ice Giant 37. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @11:00am:
    In related news: Palin backed abstinence-only sex education. McCain has also supported abstinence-only, despite evidence that it does not work well.
  9. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @11:03am:
    Be feckless and multiply.
  10. By Ice Giant 37. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @11:11am:
    Sarah Palin on the Pledge of Allegiance:
    Q. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
    A. Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.


    Don't know much about history...
  11. By Ice Giant 37. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @11:13am:
    Also from the same site:

    Q. Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?
    A. Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.
  12. By Ice Giant 37. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @11:16am:
    Q. Complete the sentence by checking the applicable phrases (you can check more than one).
    Abortion should be:
    Banned throughout entire pregnancy.
    Legal to save the life of the mother.
    Legal in case of rape and incest.
    Legal if the baby is handicapped.
    Legal if the baby has a genetic defect.
    Legal in the first trimester.
    Legal in the second trimester.
    Legal in the third trimester.
    Other:__________________

    A. I am pro-life. With the exception of a doctor’s determination that the mother’s life would end if the pregnancy continued. I believe that no matter what mistakes we make as a society, we cannot condone ending an innocent’s life.


    I.e. no exceptions for cases of rape, or for non-lethal threats to the mother's health.
  13. By Banjo Brad. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @11:51am:
    A. That is a decision to be made by each woman (and her doctor). Federal, State and Local Governments and religious institutions have not rights to dictate that she make any decision other than that which she makes.

    no exceptions - it is the woman's choice to make.
  14. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @12:05pm:
    And now, the husband. DWI.

    Folks, get your popcorn and pull up a chair. The circus is in town.
  15. By Geeza. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @12:15pm:
    What do you expect when your daughter's name is a slang word for a breast?
  16. By MAPLE LEAF. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @12:34pm:
    Hypocrisy has become a hallmark of republicanism over the last few years, so this (the carefully choreographed response, not the pregnancy) should come as no surprise to any of us.

    If only mom had spent less time on the moose hunt and more time with her kids...
  17. By Landstander. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @12:35pm:
    So Palin is a new mother of a child with special needs. And now Palin's daughter is about to become an underaged mother and enter into a marriage that, one would imagine, has a better than even chance of not lasting, considering the circumstances. Sounds like Palin has found herself a nice setup to justify leaving the ticket - thereby allowing McCain to choose a new, believable and qualified VP.

    Harriet Meier's all over again?
  18. By john weeks. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @12:52pm:
    I say it's none of our business and we should bite our tongues. Her daughter isn't running for any office.
    Anyone too stupid to realize that this happens to every slice of the American pie is begging for a slap fight.
  19. By How could it be. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @12:53pm:
    Maybe the daughter's bastardy problem will get the marijuana-smoking, Eskimo-marriage, lesbian-friendly feminist-mom's news off the front-burner. What a maroon!
  20. By Eenie Meenie. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:00pm:
    Why doesn't the family portrait of the Palins include Trig?
  21. By another larry. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:08pm:
    How long will they cover up McCain being the father?
  22. By wally the duck. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:12pm:
    "I say it's none of our business and we should bite our tongues. Her daughter isn't running for any office".

    No problem here with that, john weeks... provided the Palins and Mr. McCain extend the same courtesy to the private lives of all of us.
  23. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:29pm:
    With that tasteless and juvenile Chelsea joke, McCain has shown us how he feels about treating family members with respect. What goes around comes around.

    Of course the teen pregnancy problem cuts across class and race and affects many lives. In and of itself it's not a laughing matter.

    BUT the Repugs have set themselves up as the moral compass, the moral example of the country and it is a bit ironic that this VP candidate seems to be pushing the boundaries of strong characteristics and challenging life facts.

    To quote an old bumper sticker: Don't let your Karma run over your dogma.
  24. By Truestorys. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:29pm:
    As Long as this Baby is not John Edwards Love Child it's OK with me.

    I wonder how many of us came into this world because our parents has fun in the back seat of a Ford?

    I just hope this child was conceived in the back of a Toyota Prius, so maybe Al Gore can be it's God Father.

    Muck Eaters, Leave the kid alone!!!
  25. By J-Walk. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:31pm:
    You're right, john weeks. It is none of our business. However, Sarah Palin accepted the VP nomination knowing full well that this would become known at some point.

    This isn't something that they just learned. McCain knew about the pregnancy, and chose to pick her anyway.

    The question is, what kind of mother would want to subject her daughter to this? Apparently, her political ambitions are more important than her family. To me, that says a lot about the character of Sarah Palin.
  26. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:34pm:
    I don't think the pregnancy is funny. What is funny is the way it will make the Republicans squirm. I am enjoying the pie on their face and waiting to see how they will spin it.
  27. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @01:54pm:
    M.J.,I popped some corn,tell us more about the DWI......give her some credit,she hides nothing!
  28. By wally the duck. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:00pm:
    "give her some credit,she hides nothing!"

    We do not know that.
  29. By Volt. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:03pm:
    I'm (as always) just happy to hear no one thinks I'm the father.

    I do respect Bristol for going the extra yard to disprove those nasty rumous about her mother by getting pregnant.

    It's not a "Shotgun Wedding For Bristol," its a shotgun wedding for the father. And its probably not a shotgun. Probably an automatic weapon, at least.

    That picture of what Sarah did to that caribou probably figured prominantly in her daughter's proposal of marriage.
  30. By john weeks. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:03pm:
    Sure, we have come to the conclusion that her mother is a pimp.
    She still didn't ask for this and I think we should give the kid a break.
    If Mccain wants to look in our drawers, fine. We' ll fight him tooth and nail because he's a grown man and he ASKED for an ass kicking.
    If Mccain want's to say hideous things about the first daughter, fine. We'll print what a pig he is.
    Once again, this girl made the same mistake plenty of us made when we were teenagers; she had sex.
    She deserves a better mom and some privacy.
  31. By Eenie Meenie. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:06pm:
    2cerlvp.jpg
  32. By Detente. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:10pm:
    this happens to every slice of the American pie

    And therein defines the core of republican hypocrisy.

    They claim ownership of "family values" and have contempt for those they think do not live up to these "family values" except when it happens to them.

    BTW, Bristol, being the daughter of someone that has executive experience and who lives close to Russia, is more qualified to be president than BO.
  33. By Blayne. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:10pm:
    Is she wearing a 'bacon bikini top' Eenie Meenie?
  34. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:10pm:
    The DWI is old, 1984. I didn't read the details, but if he's stayed clean for 24 years...

    It's been 2 hours since the last breaking news that involved this beleaguered family. I'd better go check the headlines.

    Eenie! That pix is making me laugh out loud.
  35. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:12pm:
    Cool picture,A Schlitz and a joint.....as I said earlier,she hides nothing.
  36. By Chris Weagel. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:13pm:
    Which Wheatstock is that from?
  37. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:17pm:
    See,even the kid has a gun.The only thing she hides is her private parts.
  38. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:19pm:
    It's an extreme version of Marco Polo.
  39. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @02:34pm:
    He needs to pull up his trunks before he exposes the real truth.
  40. By Dinsdale Piranha. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @03:21pm:
    Guns by the pool thats how she rolls ...

    With Schlitz to boot, Wheres the Beer Butt Chicken ?


    Tawk about hangin wid de Rockefellas.

    OIKS
  41. By Doug. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @03:54pm:
    Why should we "forget the rumors about Bristol Palin being the mother"? The baby was born 4 1/2 months ago and they claim Bristol is now 5 months pregnant. I predict a healthy 8 pound "preemie".
  42. By MAPLE LEAF. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @03:57pm:
    John Weeks -- She and the party made a predictably big deal of her son in the military, thus opening the door for an examination of her family. You can't brag about the son in the army and hope to avoid the daughter in the back seat.
  43. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @03:59pm:
    Give her a break,they were plinking beer cans,so a couple of rounds went into the neighbors house,insurance covered it.Shat happens.
  44. By Doug. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @03:59pm:
    Dang, I got it backwards. That picture distracted me.
  45. By fancypants. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @04:09pm:
    This is getting funny. Your extreme reactions describe your fear of her. She is not going to win the election for him. Settle down and quit being hysterical. Obama still has it.
  46. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @04:20pm:
    Who in their right mind would vote for a lying Muslim,after 9/11????
  47. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @04:24pm:
    NO I AM NOT A BIGOT!!!
  48. By Snag. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @04:29pm:
    Eenie #31 ... tell me that isn't Michael Phelps in the background ? (grin)
  49. By Snag. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @04:30pm:
    On topic ... poor kid .. what john weeks said.
  50. By Sheldon. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @04:35pm:
    Okay now, this is only scandal #2. (the political firings being scandal #1).

    Now on to Palins Husband, and his interesting bucket o'problems.

    Has anyone posted about that yet?
  51. By fancypants. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @04:47pm:
    I thought this election was going to be different?
  52. By blackrobe. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:01pm:
    I love how gleeful and hysterical some lefties get at the difficulties families go through. Perhaps you should propose another government program for Zero and Xerox to endorse. The fact that Sarah is causing such an uproar highlights the underlying fear some have of her. And -- in case you haven't seen the bumper sticker yet - Christians aren't perfect, but they're forgiven.
  53. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:02pm:
    See #14, #34 regarding husband. But that's really old news. Is there something else?
  54. By wormpicker. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:07pm:
    As for the rumor that Bristol Palin is the mother of Sarah Palin's baby, consider that the risk of a Down Syndrome baby for a 17-year-old mother is 1 in 1250 births. For a 44-year-old-mother that risk is around 1 in 40.
  55. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:09pm:
    Actually, Bristol is lucky, her family is behind her, she can finish school, the child will know its father. BUT this young girl's mother and John McCain knowingly and willfully put her and her siblings in the harsh and unrelenting spotlight.

    I personally think McCain is using this woman and she's dumb enough to go along with it. He picked her because she has little connection to or baggage from the Bush admin. and can therefore claim she's not part of the shameful shennanigans of the past 8 years.
  56. By wormpicker. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:11pm:
    Sorry, here's the correct link.
  57. By J-Walk. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:23pm:
    The fact that Sarah is causing such an uproar highlights the underlying fear some have of her.

    I think this is at least the 3rd time in which someone has mentioned fear of Palin. I can't speak for others, but it is pretty scary that she could be president of the U.S.

    I love how gleeful and hysterical some lefties get at the difficulties families go through.

    I haven't seen much evidence of hysteria. But yes, some of us are very happy to see even mild scandals in the Republican party. Maybe it will change the minds of some of those who are thinking of voting for this clown.

    Unfortunately, an innocent family is the butt of the jokes. But that's politics, folks. She had her choice, and she decided to go for the gold. Family be damned.
  58. By KLAW. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:26pm:
    M.J.,I popped some more corn and even made some candy,let the c

    ircus begin,I have a feeling the elephant will step on the donkey.
  59. By wally the duck. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:32pm:
    Fear of Palin? I think you have that wrong. Fear that She and her trophy-collecting Pres candidate are not up to the job - yes, that.
  60. By Volt. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:35pm:
    We can all agree anyone is better than GWB, at least until WOK comes back.

    As someone who cannot vote, I blame everyone. The voters, the non-voters, the Democrats, the Republicans. But, everyone should remember the important thing: No draft.
  61. By Volt. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:37pm:
    The connection a shotgun wedding bares is right-to-life and the NRA.
  62. By wally the duck. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:41pm:
    The best VP selection since Thomas Eagleton.
  63. By J-Walk. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @05:44pm:
    The latest spin:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13062.html

    Basically, the worse it gets for Palin, the better it gets for the Repugs because common people can relate to Palin's family problems. With any luck, her husband will get fired, and they'll lose their house. That would really help.

    Actually, it makes a lot sense, and Karl Rove has done it again. That's why I'll be a Bacon O' The Month Club member in January, courtesy of Curtis.
  64. By wally the duck. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @06:13pm:
    John,
    These things show that she is just like all our neighbors. I don't want them to be president, either.
  65. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @06:49pm:
    This site: http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/state-polls.html shows Obama by a large margin.
  66. By Volt. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:00pm:
  67. By major_danny. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:04pm:
    What if the young man was named Meyers Squibb?
  68. By Volt. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:08pm:
    Imagine how that kid feels. You mess up and it's a national issue.
  69. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:16pm:
    That's why I'll be a Bacon O' The Month Club member in January, courtesy of Curtis.


    Wal Mart voters love a candidate they can feel they'd like to have a beer with - not a candidate they feel they could visit the welfare office with. Bacon samich, my 2009 delight.
  70. By Blue. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:20pm:
    Maybe the selection was based on the precedent Chaney set by accidentally shooting someone while in office. She seems like she could be a good chance to repeat the effort.
  71. By Dean Booth. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:22pm:
    I want the new dad to be... um, a transgendered illegal alien!!
  72. By Blue. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:39pm:
    Well while there's photos of her like this, she'll have the approval of my son.

    29ckoll.jpg
  73. By The ghost of ham-fisted talking points past. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @07:46pm:
    By the way, did y'all know that Cheney's daughter is a lesbian?
  74. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:08pm:
    Seriously, there's no way this can spin hands down good for the GOP. Obama already looks 8 points classier and he doesn't have to say a freaking thing. People can pretend they want a team that doesn't seem elitist - but they actually want a team that is JUST LIKE THEMSELVES, only better. It's when the notable become too much like ourselves that we turn on them - "Why don't they use their status to get themselves out of this trouble? That's what we would do."

    Paris: "Why didn't she just get a limo driver?"

    Britney: "Why didn't she just stay in her gold encrusted spa while using crank?"

    Oprah: "Why doesn't she stop overeating crap and only chew what her superb health food chef puts on her plate?"

    Roseanne: "Tom Arnold and then her bodyguard? WTF?"

    Sarah Palin: "Why didn't she keep an eye on her teenage daughter or not accept the nomination?"
  75. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:10pm:
    Fry me a river...
  76. By Spokane Mary. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:13pm:
    I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would be afraid of Sarah Palin unless she had a gun in her hand. As usual, the most fuss seems to be coming from the right instead of the left; I don't think many liberals will be condemning her because she has a pregnant teenager, but oh boy oh boy are the wingnuts on the defensive. And the liberals have a lot of fun with that. It's always entertaining to watch people eat their own words.

    Obama has come right out and told everyone to back off from her family - families are off limits. What a novel idea - but a welcome one.

    As far as Bristol goes, it's a shame she's pregnant, but it happens, and when it does, a choice has to be made; that, indeed, is what "pro-choice" means.

    Clearly, though, Sarah Palin chose to put her pregnant daughter in the limelight - it's a little silly for anyone to be surprised that she's there.

    Try to imagine Sarah running as Obama's VP; the GOP would have a field day!
  77. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:24pm:
    Obama has come right out and told everyone to back off from her family - families are off limits.


    And see, there he is ACTUALLY (almost) MENTIONING THE PREGNANT TEEN DAUGHTER while looking magnanimous. Both acts of God - the storm and the teen libido an incredible gift to Mr. O.
  78. By Spokane Mary. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:36pm:
    The storm was a great gift for McCain - instant excuse for everything that falls flat at the Republican Convention; I've been wondering how he pulled that off.
  79. By fancypants. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:37pm:
    You guys never fail to impress me with your lack of humanity. This is one of the reasons I like Obama. He will be soon saying how disgusted he is with the tone you rabid attack dogs slaver. I will second that. Come on. I really like some of the content of this site, but the low level of critical analysis, is shocking. Do you guys have no compunction over mindlessly repeating party slogans and trite cliches? Does it not get old for you?
  80. By Captain Vile. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:50pm:
    You guys never fail to impress me with your lack of humanity. This is one of the reasons I like Obama. He will be soon saying how disgusted he is with the tone you rabid attack dogs slaver.

    Obama is playing Don Imus to the nutroot's Bernard McGurk.

    I will second that. Come on. I really like some of the content of this site, but the low level of critical analysis, is shocking. Do you guys have no compunction over mindlessly repeating party slogans and trite cliches? Does it not get old for you?

    What do you expect? This is the Algonquin Round Table for Retardates, after all.
  81. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:55pm:
    Do you guys have no compunction over mindlessly repeating party slogans and trite cliches? Does it not get old for you?


    I have paid almost no attention to this issue since it became public. I haven't watched a single newscast, Sunday morning talking head show, listened to NPR on this subject - I have spent the weekend biking, hiking, dining with some friends and preparing for my son's first day of high school. I am simply responding to what I've read here and then just now (after I commented above) I read this NY Times piece on McCain's vetting process - this subject is not about feeling bad for the Palin family - it's about who's going to lead this country after a long dark period. Sometimes the sad moments of the individuals caught up in history don't matter one jot or tittle.
  82. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @08:58pm:
    Retardates


    And Vile... why don't you shove this hateful epithet sideways up your dark spot?
  83. By Doug. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @09:00pm:
    If you want to get away from private family issues we can discuss Palin's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party. :)

    "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
    Joe Vogler (Founder)
  84. By Volt. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @09:04pm:
    I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that. Now, now... Here's looking at you kid.
  85. By Captain Vile. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @09:11pm:
    And Vile... why don't you shove this hateful epithet sideways up your dark spot?

    Will it vibrate?
  86. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @09:16pm:
    And after you've done that why don't you ride your nifty little Sit 'n Spin?
  87. By Curtis. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @09:23pm:
    And Volt, I hate to say it (and I hope you're not also C. Vile), but that was funny. Got me.
  88. By Captain Vile. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @09:56pm:
    And after you've done that why don't you ride your nifty little Sit 'n Spin?

    PeeWeeHerman-1-749569.jpg
  89. By deaudonnee. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:00pm:
    Neither am I thrilled with any of the Palins, partly because I remember so well the afternoon that I accidently landed on the Limbaugh show when he was in the middle of calling Chelsea Clinton "as ugly as a dog" and all the bright young boomers were laughing their heads off. At least the part about the Founding Fathers and the Pledge of Allegiance made me laugh out loud.
  90. By Barbwire. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:24pm:
    I have three daughters, and I know I would never expose their private problems to the entire world so I could further my political ambitions. Have you noticed that Bristol is always seen holding the baby? What's going to happen when the unpaid nanny has her baby? This woman is looking like an unfit mother, and now she wants to be VP, a heartbeat away from the presidency? Be afraid, be very afraid. And vote for Obama/Biden.
  91. By Spokane Mary. Comment posted 01-Sep-2008 @10:58pm:
    fancypants, those are some incredibly harsh words you're using - much more vicious than anything I see coming from the left on this blog.
    with the tone you rabid attack dogs slaver
    Oh, please, please ... and you think we show a "lack of humanity? What are you reading here that could possibly compare with McCain's line about Chelsea Clinton?

    Seems to me the nastiness has come from the right, almost without fail, and now you're protesting your party's own words and behavior. I think it's likely you're really squawking about what your radio programs have been telling you the left is "saying" and not about what you're reading here at all. Right-wing radio does have a history of getting its listeners a bit excited, and I really don't see much here that should affect you so dramatically.

    No matter who's chosen, everything they do and say will be all over the news.
  92. By Gary. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @05:25am:
    Eenie Meenie, is #31 an actual picture or just photoshopped?
  93. By Miss Poppy Dixon. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @05:53am:
    @52

    Since there is no god, their sins aren't forgiven, just forgotten.
  94. By fancypants. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @06:04am:
    Spokane Mary, your reaction typifies what I am speaking of. I plan on voting for OBAMA. But of course, in your black and white, us versus them view of the world, I must "belong" to a party. I don't. And if describing your responses as similar to slavering attack dogs is worse to you then claiming a mom faked a pregnancy?? If that is worse to you than invading a young girl's life who is now going to go through the toughest challenge her life has yet known, then your priorities are way messed up.
    You see, there is politics and there is life. If life is truth, then politics is just opinion. But here on this site, you guys are content to try and destroy a life to forward your opinions.
  95. By Dean Booth. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @06:21am:
  96. By Ice Giant 37. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @07:02am:
    At least the part about the Founding Fathers and the Pledge of Allegiance made me laugh out loud.

    More evidence that Palin is ignorant of history, and a member of the "America is a Christian Nation" crowd:
    Palin's "Christian Heritage" Declaration
  97. By Dinsdale Piranha. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @07:03am:
    The hell with the left right or middle I'm casting my vote for Mr Bob Dobalina
  98. By Eddie. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @07:21am:
    But here on this site, you guys are content to try and destroy a life to forward your opinions.


    Aren't you here as well? Aren't you trying to forward your opinions?


    D.P. One of my favorite songs.
  99. By fancypants. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @07:26am:
    Eddie, I'm here to express my opinion, but no, I'm not interested in destroying someone's life.
  100. By Edgar. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @07:31am:
    She's gonna be a real GRILF.
  101. By Eenie Meenie. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @08:03am:
    By Gary. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @05:25am:
    Eenie Meenie, is #31 an actual picture or just photoshopped?


    I don't know if it is or not. It doesn't look like it. I got it from some guy who went by the name of rhbate. He had commented on the above link that J-Walk initially posted and oh boy, did he have a lot to say! It was rather interesting, too. He wrote about Palin and her crew working to change Alaska to a sovereign state so that the rest of us would have to buy oil from them, etc. He had facts to back it up, too. It was interesting, as were many of the comments left on the above link. Check it out.
  102. By Curtis. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @08:31am:
    You guys, of course that's an altered image. C'mon.

    If that is worse to you than invading a young girl's life who is now going to go through the toughest challenge her life has yet known


    fp - until 36 hours ago none of us had ever heard of Bristol Palin, her "toughest challenge," or her impending nuptials - the adults who decided that enormous public attention would be something she could handle were her parents and maybe John McCain and his campaign manager - they are responsible for any resulting damage to this minor - you can't unring a bell.

    Read the Times piece I linked in #81 and tell me who exactly has responsibility.
  103. By Curtis. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @08:38am:
    And if you think Obama's statement about staying away from families only happened because of his sincere concern for young Ms. Palin, I don't think you realize what a competitor he is. His statement gave him an opportunity to look wise and compassionate - an actual altruist of the type you imagine would have said nothing. THAT'S politics.
  104. By J-Walk. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @08:48am:
    You guys, of course that's an altered image. C'mon.


    Here's the original:

    orig8inalbikjinigun.jpg

    Source: http://flickr.com/photos/97897149@N00/208036176

    It's a pretty good photoshop job.
  105. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @09:27am:
    Here's a scenario:

    McCain wanted Lieberman, the repugs said no.

    McCain wanted Ridge, the repugs said no.

    SO, McCain picks somebody who will generate a distracting froth in the water and help him coast throught the convention distracting people from what he's really doing which is setting up Lieberman or Ridge to step in when he says "on further review of Ms. Palin's credentials"...

    Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
  106. By Gary. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @09:31am:
    It'll be fun when all of the family visits Sarah at the Whitehouse.

    http://tinyurl.com/6jgqqy
  107. By Sheldon. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @09:34am:
    Mean Jean: you are the second person I've heard suggest that this morning.
  108. By Miss Poppy Dixon. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @09:43am:
    Poor Bristol. I really feel sorry for her.

    When I was graduating from high school in Boise, Idaho, our homecoming king (captain of the football team) and queen were married and brought their baby out onto the field during half time at a football game.

    My next door neighbor, a Mormon, had four kids (no multiple births) by the time she was 21.

    I was terrified to stay in Idaho and took off for San Francisco as soon as I could. I just KNEW there had to be more to life than knocking out babies and living my own soap opera.

    Thank the great goddess Athe I was right.
  109. By Eenie Meenie. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @11:54am:
    Wow! That was a pretty good shop job! But now I can tell. Seesh!
  110. By Ramon. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @12:06pm:
    And what was Mr. Obama's origin? Was he not also the product of a teen age mother?
  111. By Hello. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @12:06pm:
    So the daughter's preggers, huh? Pretty convenient way to debunk the notion that Trig is really Bristol's kid, not Sarah's.

    Unless Bristol's not really preggers. Would you put it past them to use another fake pregnancy to cover for the first one? I wouldn't.

    Dollars to donuts Bristol has a 'heartbreaking miscarriage' in the next 90 days.
  112. By Volt. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @01:11pm:
    Bristol's guy seems like a world class a-hole. I feel sorry for her.
    http://levijohnston.com/Blog
    r_1220382026_scaled.amd_levi-johnston.jpg
  113. By Spokane Mary. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @01:25pm:
    Ramon, Mr. Obama has said nothing negative about Sarah or Bristol Palin; would you PLEASE try to get that through your head?

    fancypants, you amaze me sometimes. Where did you get the idea that I, or anyone else on this blog, want to destroy Bristol's life? How do you manage to twist things around to such a degree? Like Curtis said, no one knew anything about Bristol Palin or her pregnancy until her mother put her in front of the world and announced her pregnancy. Furthermore, the left is not where you'll find criticism of a young girl's pregnancy; the left is where you'll find weirdos who favor programs to help pregnant young girls - programs like WIC and job training and parent training and shelters and funded day care and back-to-school programs for teen mothers and govt funded health care for both mother and child.

    "Slavering attack dogs" - yeah, right.
  114. By J-Walk. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @01:42pm:
    That levijohnston.com/Blog link is actually a joke site.
  115. By Spokane Mary. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @01:45pm:
    Reading back through some of these comments, I do see some pretty trashy remarks, but I notice that most of the ugly stuff comes from trolls, not the regulars; another larry, of course, can be counted on to keep things colorful. But whoever heard of The ghost of ham-fisted talking points past or How could it be?

    Still, it seems clear to me that when Sarah Palin accepted the nomination, she alone made the decision to step in front of the world and expose her entire family, past and present, to microscopic examination - and to unfair accusations, rumors, fake photos, and all the rest of the ugly stuff that every candidate has to put up with. It's just the way it works - think of the trashy things said about other political figures, and, again, their families; do you think that young Chelsea Clinton wasn't heartbroken, absolutely devastated, when headlines called her "ugly"?? That's a powerfully painful word for a young girl.
  116. By J-Walk. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @02:34pm:
    But whoever heard of The ghost of ham-fisted talking points past or How could it be?


    It's the same person as Captain Vile, Secret Agent Super Dragon, Doctor Strangelove, Pasty Perfumed Ponce, Captain Pasty, Mandy, Andy, Frank Zappa's Ghost, Retarded Dorothy Parker, Hawk, Soylent Corporation, and probably others.

    Nothing prevents people from using different names, although I don't really care for it. Therefore, I don't mind revealing their other screen names if the topic comes up.
  117. By Ice Giant 37. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @02:37pm:
    Todd Palin was registered member of Alaskan Independence Party.

    It's a good thing McCain's team vetted Palin carefully.
  118. By Curtis. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @03:16pm:
    So it's a Trollbodaddy = too bad, SASD had some intelligent comments.
  119. By J-Walk. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @03:27pm:
    Using different names doesn't make a person a troll. A troll should be judged the quality of his/her comments.

    I've seen trolls, and The Ghost of Ham-Fisted Talking Points Past / How Could It Be? / Captain Vile / Secret Agent Super Dragon / Doctor Strangelove / Pasty Perfumed Ponce / Captain Pasty / Mandy / Andy / Frank Zappa's Ghost / Retarded Dorothy Parker / Hawk / Soylent Corporation is no troll.
  120. By Spokane Mary. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @04:24pm:
    Well, that explains a lot, J-Walk - this is the internet, after all.

    I've never figured out why some people have a hard time standing on their own words without trying to pretend they come from someone else; it sure seems like there's something lacking when a person has to post under a half dozen names just to make it look like there are a whole bunch of people who think like he does. That's intentionally misleading (read: a lie), and makes everything he says of questionable credibility in my book - regardless of his intelligence and/or troll status.

    Thanks for "outing" him, anyway; it's kind of a relief to know there's only one of him after all.
  121. By Candidus. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @09:56pm:
    Reading back through some of these comments, I do see some pretty trashy remarks, but I notice that most of the ugly stuff comes from trolls, not the regulars ... whoever heard of The ghost of ham-fisted talking points past...

    You obviously missed the point. The comment, with the nom de plume, was a gentle reminder to the enthusiastic pilers-on that dredging up the lifestyles of a politician's family in an attempt to discourage the support of so-called "family values" conservatives can sometimes backfire, as it did for Kerry and Edwards in 2004.
  122. By Candidus. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @10:28pm:
    I've never figured out why some people have a hard time standing on their own words without trying to pretend they come from someone else; it sure seems like there's something lacking when a person has to post under a half dozen names just to make it look like there are a whole bunch of people who think like he does.

    There's also: Aaron Burr, Agent Smith, Cloud William, Doctor Evil, Doctor Obispo, Fozzy Prez, Gustave De Windt, Geico Caveman, Minitruth, Parallel Universe Spike Lee, Robert Heinlein, Sathington Willoughby, and Soccer Mom. I'm sure there are many others.

    Most of those names were used in one-off comments where the name was used to complement the comment, or where I was commenting in an affected style of someone else. The names that I stuck with for longer periods were changed periodically so they didn't exceed the 100-post limit of this site's very useful "Comment's By..." search. Sorry if that bothers you.
  123. By Candidus. Comment posted 02-Sep-2008 @10:43pm:
    Oh, and I'm definitely not How could it be. That comment looks more like the work of the utterly pointless Evil Klown.
  124. By Mister E.B.. Comment posted 03-Sep-2008 @09:09am:
    Nice to see Candidus around again, Candidus, but I'd go with Gustave de Windt. That's the best tag of the bunch.
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