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Monday, 02 November, 2009

Religious Friction Leads To Murder Attempt
(with comments)

In New York: Religious friction led to spouse slashing.

A devout Muslim woman told police she slashed her husband's neck with a kitchen knife as he slept because he forced her to eat pork, wear short skirts and drink alcohol in violation of her religious beliefs.

Rabia Sarwar, 37, pleaded not guilty to attempted murder and was freed on $25,000 bail. She told police in a written statement that she was emotionally abused by her husband, Seikh Naseem.

Naseem suffered cuts to his neck, cheek and hand early Wednesday before fighting Sarwar off and dialing 911 from his Staten Island home, authorities said.

"He made me do so many things that are against Islam," she wrote in a statement to police. "I did my best to cut his throat," Rabia Sarwar wrote. "But the next moment he jumped on me and grabbed me."

The photo shows the couple during happier times.


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  1. By Evil Klown. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @11:19am:
    This crap is becoming more and more commonplace. I wonder why.
  2. By Shel-tone. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @11:32am:
    ...so no good?
  3. By Apu. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @01:28pm:
    The devout Muslim was busted when her pork eating, short-skirt loving husband dialed 9-11. Sweet justice.
  4. By wally the duck. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @01:35pm:
    It is becoming very commonplace; I have a friend who works in a profession where she sees quite a few foreign-born persons who have come to the US and almost all the Islamic couples she knows have disputes over standards.
    Usually the man is the more conservative; the women are wage-earners and they feel an independence because of that. The men seem to feel that their status is diminished as the women act more western.
  5. By ngan. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @01:40pm:
    why do they love to slash their victim's neck/throat? Is this part of their teaching/culture, like how they slaughter a cow by the throat?
  6. By major_danny. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @02:04pm:
    Ditto what wtd said about Muslim couples.

    I don't know the part about disputes, but several Muslims I worked with had wifes who also worked, and out-earned them to boot. They freely told me so. Some of the wifes were commissioned sales clerks, and made good bank that way.

    I'd be happy if my wife out-earned me.
  7. By bundukundu. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @02:05pm:
    Wow, you kill someone and you are out on a $25,000 bail???
  8. By wayne. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @02:09pm:
    i live in a part of the world where i only see a muslim on the TV or internet. i like my part of the world! call me racist if you wish.
    ....and oh yeah. she looks hot in that pic and boy would i feed her pork. call me ............
  9. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @02:34pm:
    Pretty much the muslim/islamic solution to any issue - kill the other party...
  10. By dee. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @03:09pm:
    **
    I wonder if that pork was bacon ?
    **
  11. By Mean Jean. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @03:22pm:
    How coincidental!

    This very evening my husband is forcing me to eat pork (a delicious recipe he got from the Graham Kerr cookbook) and he is also FORCING me to drink a truly superb red wine with it.

    Will I slash his neck? Oh contrare. I will kiss that neck, face, bald-ish head until my lips hurt and gladly do the dishes.

    I will do my best to be worthy.
  12. By Onecos. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @03:38pm:
    All you liberals need to chill. We need to accept diverse cultures. Isn't that what Obama said? Hey, you like to slam Christian values so how about accepting Muslim values? I think the Mrs. is quite attractive during happier times. You liberals are such hypocrites.... You guys really don’t know what you want. Peace and love. Let’s all hold hands and sing kumbaya.
  13. By R I C H A R D I N C A L I F O R N I A. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @03:40pm:
    WOW MJ, you are mean!

    Imagine the shock when someone moves to the US (a western culture) and the person becomes westernized, hummm. What did you think would happen?
    I'm sure they knew someone that moved here before them. Couldn't that friend/relative have warned them? Something like a phone call, "Hey Naseem, be careful when you come to the land of infidels, you're wife may want to do what they do." "No Habib, I will kill her if she wants to wear pants or work!"

    All I have to say, When in Rome...
  14. By R I C H A R D I N C A L I F O R N I A. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @03:41pm:
    oops, not you're - your
  15. By Don Coyote. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @03:51pm:
    "Let’s all hold hands and sing kumbaya."

    Sure. I've got a spare container of bleach-wipes.
  16. By wally the duck. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @04:27pm:
    Sure. I've got a spare container of bleach-wipes.

    Bleach-wipes, OK... but when the rubber gloves come out, I'm leaving.
  17. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @04:42pm:
    Peace and love. Let’s all hold hands and sing kumbaya.

    Do you have a macro set for that line, Onecos? This is at least the 10th time you've played it.
  18. By Minderbinder. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @04:56pm:
    Listen to the reactionaries! This incident is all about "Islam and tree huggers" to you guys. No one slammed Christianity when Lorena Bobbit slice off her husband's wang.

    Plenty of women are dominated by their husbands; kept barefoot and pregnant. Every once in a while one of them rebels and kills the bastard or just leaves him.

    Liberals don't condone the crime, but they do support these women who won't take the crap any more. Conservative white males are threatened by this for some reason, but I've noticed that conservative white males are afraid of lots of things, especially "change."
  19. By Onecos. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:00pm:
    Spokane Mary, I use that terminology a lot because that's what liberals do. Liberals are all about symbolism. It doesn't really matter the cause, as long as one cares, That’s important. The goal of liberalism is for the government to regulate all we do. It impacts on our freedom.
  20. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:03pm:
    Ever been the controllee under a forceful, controlling husband, Mean Jean?

    It's amazing to me how many voices there are who find amusement in this situation. I suppose it's because there's the religious component, which is always good for a laugh.

    I've often wondered if my friend Janice killed her husband Lee when their daughter finally turned 18 and would be legally able to make a life of her own; that's what she planned, having endured 15+ years living in fear and under her husband's control. She'd do whatever he ordered her to do - like a well-trained dog - because she knew he'd kill her if she didn't. It wasn't a joke or even an exaggeration; I had no doubt whatever that she was right. He was in the Air Force and had a nice comfortable rank; he'd have found her wherever she went if she dared to leave him. He'd been chewed out a few times for putting her in the hospital, but never had any serious penalties from the Air Force.
  21. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:03pm:
    Liberals are all about symbolism. It doesn't really matter the cause, as long as one cares, That’s important. The goal of liberalism is for the government to regulate all we do. It impacts on our freedom.

    And you heard that where?
  22. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:11pm:
    Of course, there was no religion in that family, so it wouldn't make as good a story.

    Right on, Minderbinder - as usual.

    Onecos, you "use that terminology a lot" because someone else said it over and over and you liked it so much you adopted it. You use it all the time because you don't care enough what you're saying to actually think about it and come up with your own words - too much bother - and really, all you want to do is make another "all liberals this or that" statement and be on your way.

    And no one locksteps as well as a wingnut - that's why you all sound alike and you all sound like Rush.
  23. By Onecos. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:21pm:
    And you heard that where?

    Thomas Paine, John Locke, Immaneul Kant. Try and read for your answers.
  24. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:25pm:
    Thomas Paine, John Locke, Immaneul Kant.

    As opposed to the truly great thinkers like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin.
  25. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:54pm:
    Let's hope they work things out. Or, if not, that no innocent bystanders get hurt.
  26. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @05:54pm:
    And you heard that where?

    Thomas Paine, John Locke, Immaneul Kant. Try and read for your answers.

    Can you give us an example?
  27. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:00pm:
    Here I found one...Thomas Paine on taxation as an obligation to society:

    Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came.


    Funny, that doesn't agree too well with your interpretation. Almost sounds like a "liberal" argument.

    Mary, he actually sounds like Glen Beck...who has been throwing the names Paine, Locke and Kant around recently...as if he had read them.
  28. By wally the duck. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:01pm:
    Can you give us an example?

    Or maybe one example from each?
  29. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:04pm:
    My Paine is at home. I can only quote about him from here online.

    Paine thought that the best way to build a strong democracy was to tax the wealthy to give the poor bootstraps by which they could pull themselves up. He proposed helping out young families with the expense of raising children (a forerunner to our income tax exemptions for children), a fund to provide housing and food for the poor (a forerunner to housing vouchers and food stamps), and a reliable and predictable pension for all workers in their old age (a forerunner to Social Security). He also suggested that all nations should reduce their armaments by 90 percent, to ensure world peace.


    http://www.buzzflash.com/hartmann/06/02/har06002.html
  30. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:07pm:
    Thomas Paine from "Agrarian Justice":

    I shall now proceed to the plan I have to propose, which is to create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property:

    And also, the sum of ten pounds per annum, during life, to every person now living, of the age of fifty years, and to all others as they shall arrive at that age.


    The latter sounds a lot like Social Security.

    Man, what a Liberal!
  31. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:12pm:
    Here's a bit on Locke: John Locke
    John Locke.

    The notions of John Locke (United Kingdom, 1632-1704) of a "government with the consent of the governed" and man's natural rights—life, liberty, and estate (property) as well on tolerance, as laid down in A letter concerning toleration and Two treatises of government —had an enormous influence on the development of liberalism. Developed a theory of property resting on the actions of individuals, rather than on descent or nobility. One could argue that liberal theory starts with Locke, influenced by the proto-liberal contributions listed above.

    * Some literature:
    o A Letter Concerning Toleration, 1689 [4]
    o The Second Treatise of Civil Government, 1689 [5]
  32. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:18pm:
    Mary, he actually sounds like Glen Beck...who has been throwing the names Paine, Locke and Kant around recently...as if he had read them.


    You're right, though, Mary; the kumbaya line is pure Rush.
  33. By Don Coyote. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:30pm:
    There are many stirring renditions of Kumbaya on YouTube but it's pretty hard to top the Guano Apes. The first 26 seconds are worth the detour.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stw3osNnEkY
  34. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:37pm:
    Religious Friction Leads To Murder Attempt Which Descends Into The Same Tired Political Debate
  35. By Fast Eddie. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:38pm:
    Onecos You sure like to bash liberals. To each their own. However, when you say that liberals are all about the symbols, you are being hypocritical. Conservatives like to spout off about how the Founding Fathers and how they are protecting their values. This is all well and good until you actually realize that the Founding Fathers were the ultimate liberals, fighting for change. In fact here is a quote from one of those Founding Fathers.
    As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.
    That would be from a Mr. George Washington.
  36. By Gee.... Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:41pm:
    Ah, Onecos, you should never quote anonymous emails without checking their facts first.
    Paine, Locke and Kant are really not the best sources for perspectives on modern liberalism but that's a great example Bisbo!
  37. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @06:52pm:
    A google search for site:rushlimbaugh.com kumbaya gets 32 hits.

    So it does seem to be a common Rushism.
  38. By Onecos. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @07:12pm:
    Ahh Fast Eddie you got me there. No argument. I just want the government out of my life. I think we can do things pretty good without the harassment. I do like Rush. I haven’t had the time to listen in the past few weeks. I used to listen to Glenn Beck but all he wants to do is plug his TV show on Fox. With the time difference, I don’t get to see his TV show. Suppose I could record it but don’t. Yeah, I’ll admit it, I took the kumbaya stuff from Rush. It was true and good, so I used it…
  39. By wally the duck. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @08:37pm:
    I just want the government out of my life.

    Well, quit using their roads and stop dumping crap down their sewers.
  40. By . Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @10:08pm:
    My mother used to run a utility district. People said they shouldn't have to pay for water because God made the water.

    Two things she wanted to tell them, but never did:

    " That's God's water out in the ditch. You can go drink it."

    "It may be God's water but they're my pipelines."
  41. By Go for the jugular. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @10:40pm:
    I took the kumbaya stuff from Rush. It was true and good, so I used it…

    Let's see...

    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, the Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
    O Lord, kum bay ya.

    Yeah, that sounds like a song that God hating libs would sing.

    Next...

    I just want the government out of my life.

    Well, quit using their roads and stop dumping crap down their sewers.

    And quit using that government provided socialized health care you get.
  42. By Bisbonian. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @10:40pm:
    The Same Tired Political Debate

    Really? You get quotes of Thomas Paine all the time?
  43. By Patricio. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @11:15pm:
    The goal of liberalism is for the government to regulate all we do.

    You mean like regulate who can get married to whom? Wow, I didn't know that right-wing Christian Republicans were liberals!
  44. By Gee.... Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @11:56pm:
    You say the goal of liberalism is for the government to regulate all we do...that's just silly...liberalism is just what the word is all about, do your own thing as long as you don't step on anyone else's rights...be flexible and inclusive, don't pass judgment, live and let live.

    The Right would love to MONITOR all we do and pass judgment according to biblical precedence.
    They scream about FREEDOM but what they really mean is freedom to be just like they are. If you don't think like I do then your thoughts are WRONG!

    How the heck do get these people to get over the fact that W Bush was a failure and it's not their fault that they were duped and to just snap out of it and use their brains??
  45. By . Comment posted 03-Nov-2009 @12:21am:
    More of that God-hating liberal tune, Kumbaya:

    Someone's crying, Lord, kum ba ya
    Someone's crying, Lord, kum ba ya
    Someone's crying, Lord, kum ba ya
    Oh Lord, kum ba ya

    Someone's praying, Lord, kum ba ya
    Someone's praying, Lord, kum ba ya
    Someone's praying, Lord, kum ba ya
    Oh Lord, kum ba ya

    Someone's singing, Lord, kum ba ya
    Someone's singing, Lord, kum ba ya
    Someone's singing, Lord, kum ba ya
    Oh Lord, kum ba ya

    It's all about prayer - imagine that. Can you see now how stupid it is to call liberals godless heathens out of one side of your mouth and have them singing Kumbaya out the other side?

    You want the govt out of your life; huh? I thought you were a Marine! How much more "government" can you get than the military? And as a military man, don't you get great price breaks on everything you buy compared to what civilians pay? And the VA health care - always there for you.

    You're WAY off track, Onecos.
  46. By . Comment posted 03-Nov-2009 @04:04am:
    uh, Onecos?
    Oneeeeecoooooossss........
    Hellooooooo.
  47. By Rip Van Winkle. Comment posted 03-Nov-2009 @09:55am:
    By wally the duck. Comment posted 02-Nov-2009 @08:37pm:
    I just want the government out of my life.

    Well, quit using their roads and stop dumping crap down their sewers.


    So...the roads and sewers belong to the government? I must have overslept! When did this happen?
  48. By BIG YELLOW TAXI. Comment posted 03-Nov-2009 @12:40pm:
    So...the roads...belong to the government? I must have overslept! When did this happen?

    When they tore down your house to build an on ramp connecting to the interstate.

    Did you try to stop them and if so, how'd you make out?
  49. By Rip Van Winkle. Comment posted 03-Nov-2009 @12:47pm:
    Whose money did they use to pay for constructing all those roads and sewer systems?
  50. By Mao's America. Comment posted 03-Nov-2009 @03:48pm:
    Whose money did they use to pay for constructing all those roads and sewer systems?

    They borrowed it from China and the Chinese got it from you when you went/go shopping.

    Hell of a racket, ain't it?
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